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Last Post 01 Jan 1900 12:00 AM by  Anonymous
New Member with Blackhawk questions
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Rolex24
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03 Jan 2013 01:06 AM
    First of all a big howdy to everybody. Glad I found this forum as I really like Ruger firearms and have several although I wouldn't consider myself a collector.

    So, my Dad, who passed away just over a year ago, handed down a circa 1960 Blackhawk to me, SN 23XXX. It has the 10"" barrel, aftermarket grips, no box and some decent wear. Doesn't have the transfer bar conversion. I'm not really concerned about the value as it relates to selling it as I'll end up handing it down to a nephew but I don't want to devalue it either.

    So here's the rub. The inside of the barrel has a crack in it that starts right where the ejector housing screw is. Shining a light down the barrel I can see the crack, it radiates around the circumference of the barrel for about 300 degrees in almost a perfect circle. I found it when I was cleaning it and shone a light down the barrel. I showed it to my engineer brother and he agreed it was a crack.

    So, what do I do? Send it back to Ruger? I certainly don't want to shoot it in this condition and wouldn't want to hand it down to someone who might shoot it at some point.

    Any advice would be welcome.

    Thanks in advance...Justin.
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    Tenpoint
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    03 Jan 2013 10:27 PM
    Yikes!

    My guess is it may not be a factory 10"" gun. Here's why:

    For a barrel to crack like that as opposed to bulging or blowing up makes me think the damage occured while someone was trying to screw on the 10"" barrel and perhaps it didnt seat or regulate properly on the final turn. Apply a little too much torque near the muzzle and ...crack, especial near that screw hole.

    Check the serial number with Ruger and they'll tell you what barrel length it originally shipped with.

    Another thing, if it was damage by a load, the cylinder and frame may be compromised as well. Have a gunsmith check it out.

    Good luck!
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    Rolex24
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    03 Jan 2013 11:14 PM
    Yep, my plan is to call Ruger, send it in and have them check it out....which means they'll install the transfer bar and most likely replace the barrel at my cost or theirs depending on what they find. I was thinking of requesting a 7.5"" barrel in lieu of the 10"" as the collector value would be gone with the original barrel, correct?
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    Tenpoint
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    04 Jan 2013 08:53 PM
    As for collector value, that might be a non-issue at this point. Maybe some other members can chime in here as I am more of a shooter/accumulator of old Rugers than a collector.

    Before shipping it off to Ruger, consider contacting Doug Turnbull about potentially rehabilitating the gun. If the frame and cylinder check out OK, they may be able to put a new 10"" barrel on for you, leaving the old clickity-clack lockwork intact. If you can spare the bucks, maybe get the thing re-blued and the frame case-hardened. Add some faux Ivory grips and you'd have a sweet-looking sixgun you could shoot, hunt with and show off without worry. In my opinion and experience, when it comes to traditional firearms nothing attracts more attention at the range than a beautiful sixgun with a 10"" barrel. Bring plenty of ammo, 'cause everyone will want to shoot it. Gotta have at least one ""big gun""...
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    Rolex24
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    05 Jan 2013 01:23 AM
    I like your style Tenpoint. I contacted Turnbull a while back and they wouldn't do the barrel work, only the refinish. I've toyed with sending it off to Gary Reeder for years. I like his work, without the engraving which isn't my style. I received an anniversary Blackhawk from my nephew a while back as a present for being his best man. Having that with a more usable barrel length justifies staying with the 10"" for the reasons you mentioned. And yes, the clickity clack of the old model is just awesome.
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    Tenpoint
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    05 Jan 2013 02:44 AM
    Check out Clements Custom Guns in Woodlawn VA. He does nice work on on old Rugers.

    Also, Hamilton Bowen.
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    Rolex24
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    20 Oct 2013 01:16 AM
    Here's an update on my situation. I sent the gun back to Ruger in the spring. It is a factory 10"" gun. However, the owner/owners previous to my Dad taking possesion in the early '70's drilled and tapped a hole in the top strap forward of the rear site. So Ruger called when they received the gun and said since it had been ""modified"" they wouldn't even look at it! I pleaded my case as an owner and loyal customer of Ruger products that they at least take a peek at the barrel and verify it is indeed cracked. No go, they would only offer to keep it and sell me a new gun at wholesale. No thanks. I had them send it back.

    So I mulled things over for a while and finally contacted Hamilton Bowen. The gun went out to him this week. He'll be sending it out to get the hole in top strap welded solid, CCH the frame and gate, verify barrel condition and if truly cracked replace it with an OM barrel cut to 5.5"", general tune up, bisely hammer and cerakote the grip frame. I'm going to finish it off with some fancy claro walnut and black micarta grips for whatever mood strikes on a given day. Even though it won't be the exact gun my Dad handed down to me it will still have his ""fingerprints"" on its soul and will be one hell of an heirloom for one of my nephews. I'll be sure to share pictures when its finished.
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    flattop44
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    20 Oct 2013 04:00 AM
    That will be one fine shooter after Hamilton works his magic on it!! I have several Bowen worked over revolvers and they all shoot like a dream!!

    Be sure to post pictures when you get it finished.

    Bill
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    Tenpoint
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    22 Oct 2013 04:38 PM
    Thanks for the update. Sounds like plan!
    Can't wait to see the pics. I just love these sort of projects...

    Chris
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    Rolex24
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    10 Jan 2014 02:34 AM
    Got the invoice from Hamilton Bowen on Christmas Eve! Won't be long now. The shop work is completed, all that's left is metal finishes and assembly. The barrel was inspected and found to be gouged instead of cracked. So either some type of manufacturing defect or more likely damaged by somebody. Possibly digging out a stuck bullet is the only explanation I could come up with. Bowen ended up fabricating a custom 5.5"" barrel out of Douglas stock as it was more economical that cutting down a Ruger factory barrel.

    I lucked out as Cary Chapman is back up and running and is making rams horn and & english walnut grips for it. This is going to be spectacular gun. I will DEFINITELY post pics when completed. I hope to have it in my possession within 4-6 weeks. Can't wait.
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    SteveRuger
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    23 Feb 2014 10:54 PM
    Interested in seeing the finish project! Sounds like it will be a great Shooting firearm!

    Steve
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    Rolex24
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    19 Apr 2014 09:00 PM
    In mid February, while the OM was still being finished up, I sent off a Lipsey's SBH and a Old Vaquero for BCA's Nimrod barrel and Lightweight package respectively. Well, yesterday I received all three and couldn't be more thrilled. First class work on all three. On the Lightweight I added a bullsey ejector rod and SBH hammer (that BCA was able to source for me :) ). My Dad's OM is just awesome, Hamilton's group saw to every detail and it seems he went the extra mile knowing how much this gun meant to me, I wish my Dad was still here to see what it has become. Cary Chapman provided the grips for the OM, english walnut and rams horn (I couldn't make up my mind so I got both) both of which are impeccably finished. I'd like to get his black micarta on the Nimrod and claro walnut on the Lightweight. So, enough of me babbling, let's get to the pics. Oh, OM is .44mag, Nimrod is .44mag and Lightweight is .45lc.

    [img]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j37/Rolex24/Revolvers/DSC_0309_zps2ac8eae4.jpeg[/img]

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    [img]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j37/Rolex24/Revolvers/DSC_0307_zps71280502.jpg[/img]
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    Rolex24
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    20 Apr 2014 04:42 PM
    Here's another pic that shows off the color case hardening a little better.

    [img]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j37/Rolex24/DSC_03491_zps1ffaf74b.jpg[/img]
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